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148       ECONOMIC  INQUIRIES  AND  STUDIES

                     And  then  Mill  proceeds  to  argue,  amongst  other
                  things, that  in  the case of America  protective import
                  duties would not set up towns in Ohio  and Michigan,
                  but would merely favour New England as against Old
                   England.  He  does  not  dispute,  however,  that  in  a
                  really new country protective import duties would have
                  the ,effect  contended  for  by  American  protectionists.
                   He rather assumes that the effect wilJ  be produced.
                     At any rate, whatever was  Mill's precise view, there
                  is no doubt that protectionists like Carey profess to aim
                  at a larger settlement of population in  a  new country,
                  so that the agriculturist  may have a  local market, and
                  so on.  Even in  Mill, however, one can see that he has
                  in view a  large economic change  that may be  effected
                  by means of protective import duties in  new countries
                  -that the question in his mind is a  big  one and not a
                  little one.

                     If I were to discuss these passages generally, I should
                  have a good deal  to  say upon  them.  I t  is  not  a  suf-
                  ficient reason  to  employ protective  duties  to  set up a
                  new industry in a country that the industry is believed
                  to be  suitable for it.  Proof is  also  required that  after
                  paying  the  expense  of  the  operation  people  will  be
                  better off in any way than  they would  otherwise  have
                  been.  But I  am not discussing  the  passage  generally.
                  I  confine  myself to  the  point whether manufactures-
                  what is popularly known  as  manufactures-can be set
                  up to any material extent in a  new country in the way
                  described.
                     The  suggestion  I  would  now  make  is  that, in  the
                  nature of things, as far as manufactures are concerned,
                  the possible variation in economic conditions  in a  new
                  country by means  of so-called protective  duties to set
                  up  manufactures  must  be  quite  insignificant.  The
                  maximum of the manufactures that are capable of being
                  affected  by  protective  duties  is  so  small,  that  a  new
                  country even  if it  could  get all the manufactures con-
                  ceivably  possible,  would  practically remain  as  before
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